GavinWi

Yes they will because you're not allowed to talk about stuff you have seen that shouldn't even be getting seen.

Fair doo's but I didn't sign an NDA so I'm not going to lose any sleep!

christ you could grow massively tired of repeating yourself,.

Not me. If I thought it would make a difference I'd bang on about it every day. I've made my mind up based on what I have seen and until Atari/Eden prove me wrong (more info please) I'll continue to do so.

...And they will probably continue to delete my posts from the official TDU2 forum too.

I really hope they do take all this on board. I don't want to bang on about the driving physics but certain bugs I can live with, but a fundamental misrepresentation of how a car rotates when being steered by the front wheels (only) cannot be overlooked and will ruin the game for me. They've spent so much time making the environment as accurate as possible - it would be a shame if they spoilt it.

You obviously haven't played it yet, so how do you know they suck??

You don't need access to the beta to know they suck all you need is 2 eyes in your head and access to Youube.

okay it's not the actual game but let's not kid ourselves just because we're fans of the first game - we don't like what we see and saying something about it here might actually force a change for the better.

1) Most of the leaked footage is played with a keyboard

2) It's a beta. Anything can happen. I don't get it, why is it so hard to understand that beta does not represent the quality of the final game...

They are 5 months away from releasing a game with poor driving physics that they have been developing for four years... and are very proud of.

Keyboard or not - I'm pretty sure that just because you are using arrow keys, it doesn't suddenly make the car steer on a central axis which defy's gravity... does it??? I've played driving games on the PS2 which have a better representation of the real thing.

... I do hope you are right though, otherwise it's a lost cause.

What I don't understand is, if they have been working on the driving physics for four years, and they are so proud of the fact that they re-built it from the ground up, it MUST be represented accurately in the beta. So:

1) why does it look so rubbish on the leaked videos

2) how much can they really tweak it if they wanted to

I'm very, very concerned Eden/Atari.

They usually release trailers and such on Friday's so this means we have at least another week to wait for any decent stuff... D'oh!

There's the 'S' word again.

TBH, I reckon they’ve got licensing issues – why else have we only seen a few manufacturers?