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If he does this mean seriously it would mean, that the preorder customers were fooled if ALL preorder cars in the release version. :oook: Like everytime, somebody tells this and anotherone tells that, but what is the truth. :D

But it shows a lack of sense of tact. I don't think its good for an Community Manager to spoil and show off like that a month before release. Its good for him, that he can play but many people wont be happy, because they have to wait. But its his decision and for me, i have waited for a successor since four years so one month is nothing and if it will be a worthy successor we will see.

Sorry but that would be really dumb from Atari to count cop cars as normal driveable cars, because you can them drive only in cop mode. Dont know but then NFS HP3 would have 200 cars if they would count such a way. But if 91 cars are true we need a new official list. I have written this several times in official Forum but no answer/reaction. Still what is with the Camaro Synergy, its advertised (in video) as pre order car, but you cant buy it in a shop or at least nobody knows where. So is it preorder car or not?

If they keep the Official List everybody has the right to get the preorder cars at start because it is false advertising and this isn't legal. Now they advertising on Homepage and Newsletter with 91 cars, but there is no official answer what cars in there and what is the true list.

Its the same thing i thought. They telling the people they want to make the best racing experience ever and have no Lamborghini but a Sims Like Casino and Houses, yipppieee ey jeahhh. Goal reached. @CLR I dont think we will get the truth about many questions and the Lambo thing, they are just now telling strange and unbelievable answers, we are now in the same situation since TDU 1. For example: - Leaked Patch - no there will be other patch - Released Patch= Leaked Patch now: - Car List on Facebook - no its not the full list - oh its the full list And there already cars missing and the thing with the pre order cars on it and the new newsletter telling 91 cars, what would mean 2 new cars (101 full car list - 12 pre order = 89 cars). And nobody can give an answer.

@Ethan What you dont understand? We just posted the statements from Galopin why there are no Lamborghinis in TDU 2 and will not be there. The picture is a former screenshot from edengames website. No read the article its just an example for a slow car, there isnt a Ford Focus in TDU 2 (yet).

On the right Monitor its an Lotus Esprit S3 with stickers and on the left monitor its the Ford Mustang with stickers too. Later on there is a blue Lotus Esprit S3 on the left monitor. And here is a Corvette C1 Couch :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pla...shD1oGM#t=3m37s

You wont be able to drive both cars, only if you buy TDU 2 from the two dealers (Steam and Walmart). ;) Maybe later there will be a dlc for the exclusive preorder cars in future but in retail version there will be no Supersport AND Tricolore without Preorder.

Okay only three questions, i hope i got you right. You say Millions of People are stupid because of playing Online Poker? You think Poker is only gambling, so why there are so many Poker Professionals? In which small world you live that you have such a tolerant opinion? Oo If you meant Roulette and such things okay, but i think the main part of Casino Online will be Poker.

Thats all right, but its only one of the possibilities. When i saw the first pics of Casino it reminded me in first way on PKR and there were not many informations about, what things will be included. So if you say, whats with the cars and things, you can leave this behind if you only searching for real money Online poker, also the people who want only to win the cars they need not to use the real money part. It is only a possibility that had could come, so they decided not and thats okay, i wanted to clarify that, because its not a dumb thought in times that Atari has not a real good financial position and STO and Champions are not so good, as they wanted. I dont wanted to start a discussion again on this topic, i only wanted to show you, that it would be no real problem even the age restriction, its all things that can be solved and for that it would have been possible, that it gives real money in Casino Online. And nobody can tell if there were such plans at Atari or not.

That is what i meant. So its a DLC or before should get standalone. It could get without any problems rating +18 because it has nothing to do with TDU 2. And in countries where gambling is disallowed, they not need to sale it there. We just should keep in mind that this were two different products or were supposed to do so. So its a little shame, that Atari spend valued development time in a feature that they wanted to sale as standalone product which not really has something to do with TDU 2. And I'm not the only person who is thinking in such a way.

Sure it would be 18 rated but its not a real problem, so i know there is no age verification at the online poker games or i didnt realized it, they just say its 18 rated if you making wrong information your account will be closed if they catch you. So Atari had could sell it, as maybe 12 - 16 rated or something and if you want to play with real money you have to make an extra account which is only allowed for 18+ and thats the only thing for which is Atari responsible. For the country thing, as a standalone thats no problem so they just not need to sell it in such countries. I think to implement real money would be no big deal. I hope its clear what i mean? So im happy there is no real money (for now) and no age discussion any more and the people can decide if they want to purchase the Casino or not.

@t. It was a thought of mine, because i dont understand why to spend so much time and money in a feature which they sell now as DLC and if gamestop was right only for 10$? And believe me, if Atari finds a way or the players want it, they implement real money in the casino and why not its just another money source and it seems they need many of them or why there are the DLC plans? And im pretty sure as standalone game it would have happened. If you just compare with pkr.com (which is the only one 3D Onlinepoker) and has no competitor, Atari would have been the second. And both look really similar and have similar features. So with this facts is it really out from the world to have such thoughts?

And thats okay for you to cut the watermark and to present like its your work?

its nice from you to post this but what is with this Maxim VIP Club? I cant read russian. You copied my picture!!! http://tdu.gameprophets.com/forum/thread.php?postid=864431#post864431

There is a explanation, http://au.gamespot.com/news/6268798.html but in case of TDU 2 several people voted because of the newsletter, so that votes had to be counted.

If this happens we had the same bad net code like in TDU 1, but the hope is that in TDU 2 it will be much better and so the systems are not compatible. ;)

Yeah and thats then the same episode with the patch thing: - Patch leaked - Atari: no its not the official patch - some weeks later Atari: okay it was the patch, sorry So they fooling the people again, if they shutdown the server in february or later. TDU 2 is the last big game with which they can make a lot of money after the bad numbers with Star Trek Online and Champions Online but not with this bad behaviour against the community. And up to now there is no official information, that its true what joystiq had written. But what we have is a package which you can buy, where a information is, that you can play this version until Jan/2011. Why they should print such information without confirmation of Atari? If its untrue then they had just leave it. I hope Atari itself will tell something but that will never happen, how so often. Dont know what you mean with your first part, but there is no Atari in Europe, its only Atari US and Namco Bandai makes the distribution for Atari SA (in France) in Europe.

I find it funny, a official package(from Atari confirmed) is just a rumour and if Atari is fooling the community again and again and again and again and is saying: No no this was just a joke, then its a news. We will see, the last word isnt spoken. ;)

This is the objective for Atari not for the community. They have to make sure that the online profiles can be used as offline profile. But Atari had made a fallback and supposedly the servers should only move. But this means that the Green Pepper Customers are treated in a other way and there keys will be disabled again from Online Play? But this means also that Atari had the possbility to disable the keys from cheater. Make your own opinion but i think the Server will go down if TDU 2 is a success or there will be only a small server left for TDU 1. http://www.joystiq.com/2010/07/09/rumorong-test-drive-unlimited-servers-not-going-offline-next-ye/ Its the next demonstration that a strong community can change things.

I think the right Icon are the tuning upgrades and if you compare the numbers with real one, the TT RS is stock, so not tuned. The A 5 maybe is something with the license thing (Racing School) and the class, maybe now is A the slowest class or A is normal cars and 5 the lowest, B SUV's, and so on

I think too we should push the sorting factor, it was big problem in TDU and in TDU 2 with more Houses and more Cars you have no chance to find a car quick. I dont understand why they miss such a important improvement. Somebody posted the question how it will function between the two islands with the cars, if you have to buy cars for each island and so on. This is a very interesting point, i hope somebody can give a answer.

He doesnt say anything about Ferrari and i heard the Interview several times. If you want a confirmation for Ferrari and Lamborghini you will find it in this text: http://g4tv.com/games/xbox-360/63333/test-drive-unlimited-2/articles/71052/E3-2010-Test-Drive-Unlimited-2-Preview/ (please be carefully with this text, the writer was not very intelligent) But this means nothing, there can be all cars in the game now, but if they cant get the license they will be not in the final game for us. edit: okay i read it in another board, there shall be a ferrari sign in the vid, but these are the trailers, so its nothing new and someone found it long time ago.

You can translate really good, there is no mistake everytime. ;) I think the release dates in GB and France will fixed very soon, so it happened in germany.

No its not. Aquaplaning is if your tires are "swimming". Wet roads effects only in less grip.