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I'm actually warming to EA again, Shift was innovative, Rock band is always expanding, Mirrors edge was innovative (if a bit rubbish) and Skate is a franchise I love. Truth told, currently I believe activision is the new EA, releasing the same games every year. Just look at the way that Rock Band constantly gets new gameplay modes (actual guitars for controllers and keyboard in RB3) compared to the 'same gameplay, different songs' which activision puts out in Guitar Hero. in 2009 there were 5 guitar hero branded games, 'nuff said. Same for Skate, which took the tony hawks shovelware and revolutionised it with a new style of control, and much more believable gameplay.

Shift 2 is a circuit based racer, TDU2 is an open world driving game. they're different, and if you can't appreciate both, and their respective qualities then you're being very naive. I agree that it sucks that BMW and Porsche are not in, to the point it would make the game >better< if they were in, but the fact they are not does not make the game >worse< What annoys me most on the list is lack of variety within a similar segment, for example: in TDU we had mafia cruises, essentially the entry criteria is Big 4 door, painted black, and we had the options of cars like the 300c, various mercedes, the Audi A6 etc. right off the bat, wheras now we have the charger and the CL 63... Same for classics, off the bat in TDU you could pull together a US classics themed cruise, with the camaro, the firebird, the stingray, the Gt500, the daytona coupe etc. and now all you get is the fastback, the daytona and the c1. Given that the camaro/firebird/stingray are iconic cars, it makes it even harder to understand why they aren't on the disk, and what GM product they used instead (Hands up anyone who actually used the C1 in TDU) Although, at the test I did find myself happy enough with the dealers, as there was never a moment where I went 'oh, why isn't x here' so perhaps i'm just feeling spoilt because of Forza, and the fact I had nearly all teh expansions for TDU1 :P Have they announced anything about the dlc frequency?

Thanks, updated first post Also, he keeps mentioning videos of scenic drives, but I haven't seen anything of the sort on the videos he does... does anyone have any idea which videos he's referring to?

On the topic of alpina, it's a bit strange that no-one has considered using them in place of BMWs, given that, as t. said, they use blank a chassis and build it up from there, and hence surely they'd also be licensable as a separate entity

Fetch me some fire, I need to do some killing

:modwork: Cleaned the list a little, matched it up with the official car list and have moved anything not covered by the official carlist into post #2

I started posting this the same time as you but had a call, I didn't realise you'd posted a thread during the time it took me to take that call anyway, both threads had 1 view when i deleted yours, and mine has an austin powers reference and is hence superior :p

The latest TDU2 trailer showcases the legendary British big cat, in a trailer Devoted to the XK and the E-Type (with a bit of D-type for good measure) Click if video above doesn't show.

Well, I know it's not a drag strip, but Ibiza's airport is now tarmac as opposed to mud in TDU1, it's closed, but if you're a little creative with your dukes of hazzard style of offroading, it's easy enough to jump the fence :P

Ok guys, which one of you pressed the button? I was having a nice nap! Welcome again andai :)

Ok guys, which one of you pressed the button? I was having a nice nap! Welcome again andai :)

:D Good Charlotte, before they became completely wrapped in their own egos

I've only preordered once, for the PC, because i'm a poor student xD but GOOD NEWS! my new house for next year has proper internet unlike the rubbish I have at my current flat, so I will have XBL, and hence TDU2 for 360 s**n :D

thanks tdu66, edited the first post

...still waiting for my preview copy :p ... ah well, one can dream

yeah, they rant and rave about heavy, have some pretty heavy sounding jingles and stuff... then the music plays and it's just a case of 'what is this I don't even' iTunes for me :P

Oh dear, the terrible DJs that were in our preview are the same. A little warning: If you are a lover of metal and hard rock, the DJ on the rock station will strike you as an offensive arse. They make it out as if the music is going to be seriously ear bleedingly heavy... in a very non convincing manner... the music they actually play is more of the oasis levels of heavy... exactly, not heavy...

You're playing it wrong, the little chips are supposed to go in the holes

Autoblog claim that they're investigating a roadgoer too!

*headdesk* you can't just rotate Ibiza 180 degrees because that way it works better in portrait :fp: but alas, pretty cool :)

The 2CV, The Beetle, The Hot Rod, The D Type and the Shelby Cobra Daytona... don't know about the last one but pressumably it's the buggy

Isle of Mann. Oh, and given they're playing about with physics and stuff, they could try and add planes of some sort... I remember there was a rumour that burnout paradise would get planes, and whilst that never took off (pardon the pun) it did kick up quite a lot of interest. With 2 islands as beautiful as Oahu and Ibiza lovingly recreated in great detail, this could be a winner, as, well, i've never seen a flight sim with much attention to ground detail, not to this level anyway. Yes, the physics of a short-development time add on would inevitably be horrid, but being on a par with games like just cause can't be that hard, and whilst flying physics in JC are horrible, at least it's playable, and enjoyable. It would fit with the game too, as the idea is that you can go anywhere and do anything... Besides that, that taxi idea sounds great and could create a new class, D for domestic, and the concept could be expanded to something similar to the GTA3-vc-sa sytem, where you can do stuff like bus driving and ambulance missions. This could also contain the police cars so you can free roam them. Oh, and besides the Police cars (already modeled) there would be no need to pay for the use of licensed vehicles, through the use of a generic taxi/bus/ambulance/traffic car etc.

Voice use yoda do I in head when thread reading... On pc shall i be, no play with lee can I