I tried GT5 at my friends house yesterday and was well.. dissapointed. Driving felt,nothing like driving. understeer everywhere,over steer if you try to flick your car into corners quickly. "The real driving simulator" they say something more like "The real bad driving simulator". I'm not just saying this because, I like xbox. But GT5, to me was a big dissapointment I've played and loved all the GT games, on the PS1 and, PS2 but this isn't one of them. I also tried a drifting event took off TCS, and all the other aids besides anti lock, and tried to drift. You hold the hand brake to start the drift like always and, it sends you violetly into the exact direction you didn't want to go. Its not because im a crappy drifter. In Forza I drift 24/7 and, well. I honestly can't see how you do it in this game. There goes Buying a PS3 for me then..