Milli

Nope, they are not common. I've never seen one in person. Only youtube. Even because a F430 costs here 480.000 euros. And it's not many people who have that kind of money to spend in a car. :lol:

It's not an argument... i am fine writing conversation, but if you want to go down that path... fine by me.

That's the ideal, but that's not reality. I've seen many, many and many cars like Azeras, Civics, Accords, BMW 325i and those "luxury" sedans going like hell on the road. Including Hiluxes, Chevrolet S10's and VW Amaroks. And the ricing, the money spent on a car, the car is not yours, and the money is not yours aswell... why should you care about that? :lol: You may not like the ricing, but the owner sure does think it looks awesome! And it's his car! So, again, why should you care? Lol

Well, let me explain... Me, and other friends, who are also car enthusiasts, we noticed something in common... without talk about it, that were a common opinion between us... these new cars, being more and more silent... and more and more powerfull. My example will be the Hyundai Azera... i've seen a lot of those cars on highways, going over the limit, at something like 180km/h in a 110km/h speed limit. And, why they do that? Because these cars are so silent and fast, you step on the gas and don't even feel it... you don't get the feeling of speeding. I drove an Hyundai Azera, and i reached 160km/h... it felt like it was going at 80km/h. Really... I have a lot more fun driving the Punto, which is more noisey and not that fast... leaving toolboths, i stretch it, at the max rpm... and it is not fast, it takes 15 seconds to reach 100km/h if you do that... but guess what? I do that because it's fun! I like to listen the engine talk... i like to listen the power curve start going down, so i need to shift... that's how i feel when doing that, and what others think about it, i don't care, and they shouldn't care about it either... i am not hurting anyone. :lol: So, why should i care about the feelings of someone else doing it? It's not my business as long he doesn't put me in risk! If he feels proud? Not my business. If he feels like a champion? Not my business. If he feels like a champion when overtaking me? Not my business either. So, to sum it up... i am not mad, please note that, just explaining my point of view... you shouldn't care about the Saxo drivers... and to me, those silent cars are prone to make you go speeding in order to have fun... because at normal speeds they are way too boring. :lol:

Better than someone speeding like a maniac at 200km/h with a diesel car in order to get some fun from it. Noise is a factor on the sense of speed, and nothing is more fun than that. Feel the speed... so, let the guy have fun with his Saxo at 80km/h, how he feels it's not your business. :lol:

This rally Civic doesn't agree with you, on the part of being "ricey". :lol: I'd say that Jazz sounds like a race car, not a riced one.

The day that a diesel car get a sound like this, then they will be cool. :lol:

The not does not make it clear, or does it may not mean not... dot? :lol: I should stop trying to make confusing funny sentences on english, because i fail hardcore at it.

I will post what i listened at that time. :lol: [headline]Spice Girls - Say You'll Be There [1996][/headline] And guess what? I somehow still like these music. It's part of my life, that bring me back some memories. :lol:

[headline]Spice Girls - Wannabe [1996][/headline]

I can't wait to see this feature too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbuCkh54lJM Apparently this video shows a track made by Polyphony, using the Course Maker tool. Why? Because apparently they will release a few tracks made in the Course Maker before release this tool to players. (Money, money, money) This track also seem to be placed at Zahara De La Sierra, Spain. More info at: GTPlanet.net - News and Discussions thread GTPlanet.net - Sneak Peak: Course Maker thread This track will be able to download around February, apparently. Either way, it looks awesome to me! :D

The answer for everything.

What i really like in GT6 is that the car now feels and looks like it's actually ON the ground, and not hovering over it with a very thin layer of nothing between the tires and the road.

I never said rich as a bad thing. Or that people doesn't deserve to be rich. Please don't mix things up. History aside and all that, now... right now, your family is a family that i, Millena from Brazil, would consider a rich family. And please note, that's not a bad thing. Never said it's bad.

1300km. I've seen people do longer trips in Volkswagen Gol... in 4 to 5 people inside. So, yes... i think the WRX can do the job very, very well. I've already drove for 5 hours, non-stop, with 5 people inside a Fiesta 1.0l 2003. Then again, my mind won't change about the WRX. It can do it's job very well and anything else than that is a plus. And sorry, but 100.000 euros DO means someone is rich, specially if that money is spent on a car. 100.000 euros = 317.000 BRL. And "rich" people around here buy themselves Hiluxes and Hyundai Azeras, which cost 1/3 of 100.000 euros. So, excuse my poorness. Edit: To make this more clear to you ok, using myself as example. I am considered medium level family here, and 100.000 euros could do this: Remake and fix all the problems i have in my house, such as cracks on the walls, leaks and many other little problems. It could easily support my living here for university for the rest that's left and probably buy me a base car, like a VW Gol 1.0. And i guess that wouldn't be enough to spend it all. All that money, spent in ONE car! Just ONE! Really... that can't get into my mind as a logical car choice and the person who has that sort of money to spend on one car not being rich.

Yes, i do, because you seem to have forget that. And they are not different, when you take it by logic. They are cars, things to move you from A to B. And to me, a WRX is the top in the logical choice. Anything else is a plus and a want. If you get a diesel because you want one, fine... but please don't come at me with this "money savings" excuses. Specially with expensive cars. I am sorry, but 100.000 on a car, money sure isn't a problem... specially when you put real logic in between.

I will quote myself guys... my first comment: And hell yes i don't have money. My father has a Fiat Punto and can't even buy me a 1000 brl videogame if i don't save the whole year and get money together with my brothers! That's why, more than you guys think, i know how to buy a practical car when you need money, and for daily uses, i really can't see a point to get a car more expensive than a Subaru Impreza WRX. Just the WRX, not the STi. Or something like that. It's a car that will last your whole life, it's awd, it's a 4-door saloon and has enough power to go over 200km/h easily. That's the cheaper car i meant. If you buy anything else more than a car like this, it's taste and it's waste money on the car. Why buy then? Because many other things... taste, preferences, status, whatever reason you want... it's not my business and it doesn't matter. In my opinion, if you spend so much money on a car, care about fuel prices is some "closed hand" action, because you've already spent more than necessary when buying the car itself. My mind won't change. Sure, some people can't have a WRX, because they need space, other need more ground clearance, but the avarage, city citzien doesn't need any more than that.

If i had so many things to keep and care, i wouldn't buy a high end expensive diesel car. I'd get something cheaper. That's how i think about car spends. Get an expensive car, but then look out for fuel money... to me that sounds wrong, and i wouldn't do such thing. I'd get a BMW 540i or something like that. The BMW 550i is about the same price as the m550d and has 450hp, instead of 381hp. Both cost about 106.000. But, if i had so many things to keep and care about, i'd get a 535i, which has 306hp and costs 76.000. And i don't think it will be much worse than a 550i. But that's me, my opinion. It's not about being the right thing or the wrong. That's my way of thinking when getting a car.

The M550d already does that. :lol: (And it will never be an M5) My point is, what's a fart for someone who already pooped in the pants?

Sorry, but why not get the M5? If you had money to buy and keep one... it's an M5 already, you really care about money being thrown away? As you said, you don't race, your parents doesn't either, why get such an expensive car? A normal 5 series would do the job easily, like the A6 did. Do you see my point here? When you spend more than 100.000 euros on a car, fuel money sure isn't a problem.

My opinion? (If it worth something :lol: ) If you buy an expensive car, being a diesel one, just because the MPG saving... sounds a bit greedy, or... "closed hand"... A Lupo TDI is fine because the whole point of the car is being cheap and save you money, but when it's about an expensive car, it just gets controversial.

Happy birthday Mikey! I wish you all of the best! :birthday:

You can get a nice weather, but be prepared for one of the most expensives car prices on the world. Where an used 98 Corsa costs more than an Alfa GT 2005 in UK.

Well, in summer yes, we have often days like that. The sky is very blue and you can't see a single cloud. When it rains in summer, the clouds apprear all of sudden and are gone as fast as they came. Less than one hour all of the rain and the clouds are over. To make you even more jelly, here are 2 more photos of the beach, without the Punto though. My grandmother has a house that's 5 minutes on foot away from this beach. I love that place... :D Ah, and i love your Civic aswell. It's tastefully modded with those Spoon rims. I'd get same rims if i had a Civic like that.