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Again? This happened to a V12 Vanquish a while back.

Long nose and high Wings: Butterfly. What car has butterfly doors and a long nose? Cars with Butterfly doors: Devon GTX, Enzo Ferrari, Joss, McLaren F1, Mercedes-Benz CLK-GTR/SLR, Mosler MT900, Nissan R390GT1, Panoz Esperante GTR-1, Saleen S7, SSC Aero and Toyota Sera. Of those, the long nose ones could be the SLR, R390GT1, Esperante and S7. I'd probably go with the S7 OR if it's gullwing doors then the SLS, or the Superbird as that would be the most literal translation without going into it intensely. Just another possibility.

No, it doesn't confirm anything. It just means that "Volante" is owned by Aston Martin, and is part of a licensing agreement. Lamborghini licenses the LM002 everywhere but that never gets used. Also note that the Rapide is not there either, which means I could potentially have been correct in saying that the contract may have been done up before the Rapide was included. This however does not mean that the Rapide will or will not be in the game.

Some of you guys are overlooking the fact that this car is for his mother and his father will be getting him a manual vehicle eventually.

No Gamestop pre-order? Weird... Guess I'll go to Best Buy..

We don't get the Avensis here. We just have the Corolla, Matrix then Camry.

Martini and Three: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martini_(cars) - The car could be an old Ford Cosworth Rally Legend: http://www.rallylegend.com/2009/index.php , I don't know what Audi that is. Edit: I'm REALLY bored at work..

Yeah..Nevermind I was wrong. Sorry! It is 4, not 4x4!

Well, I'd run on the edge and say that if the one-77 is in, we can assumeall the Astons sold today except for the V8 Vantage would be in, except that would be a bad assumption. We can make the assumption, simply because their most exclusive vehicle has been added, so the rest should be no problem. But it's a wrong way of thinking, that's really what D's point was. I see your point as well, but it's never just ONE factor either. Factor 1: All the money went to gain the rights of the one-77, since Aston Martin raised licensing fees with the inclusion of this car. Eden may not have been able to afford it all, so they cut what they felt might not be useful in the game. Factor 2: If the Aston Martin contract was made, the Rapide may not even be included in it, it only JUST became a Production vehicle. Thus, it may not be in the contract at all. This could be for company laws or whatever, or Atari got to them first. Who knows. Ditto for the V12 Vantage if Aston Martin didn't give them the (originally) Euro-only vehicle. Factor 3: Duplicity is another reason some cars may not be seen. Mercedes-Benz is NOTORIOUS for having cars that over lap. CLS and E class for instance. The CLS may be put in because it's sportier than the E class, so developers and the company decided to cut the E class. Another example would be the DBS and DB9. They are very similar, and for Atari, it may have been a better alternative to just have the DBS this time instead of both. Factor 3 is the least likely to happen in a game like this, unless it's coupe/convert debates, and even then, doubt it. But it's still possible to happen, so they could make room for other vehicles. So, we can assume they'll be in, but we could be entirely wrong as well. That's all it really comes down to. The problem is we're arguing Aston Martin here, it is a company that it's pretty possible for all the cars to come in (except the Cygnet) as they are all part of the life style. We can't guarantee all the cars, but they're all possible. Switch the argument to Mercedes-Benz and it makes much more sense to argue it. The GL, R and GLK may not be in because they don't fit the image as well as the ML and G do. S might be in because it does fit the image, but it may not be sporty enough, but the SL and CLS are..etc..

I has a question! The 4 eXtreme eXperimentation is actually: 4x4 eXtreme eXperimentation <- This was the actual signature. How would 4x4 relate to Ferrari FXX or 599XX? Unless of course...it's both. But I doubt that.

Even though you don't want used, I'd still recommend getting a car a year or two old, so you can save the original depreciation you're going to take a hit on. Sometimes dealers have some left overs as well that they're willing to drop prices on! That said: You can probably swing a used Audi (A3, A4), Acura (TSX) in those prices. And they're not too old that your dad would feel that they are unreliable. My TL (02), Civic (99) and EL (04) are bulletproof. They've done very well for us and combined they have ALMOST 3/4 of a million km on them. (This is about 60k miles shy of 500k miles). So, a year or two won't hurt you at all. New: Honda, Toyota, Hyundai are the places to go. I hear good things about Ford now adays though, so might be worth it.

Switzer P800 Nissan GTR Lamborghini Gallardo Mercedes-Benz ML63 AMGs (2) (These two are everywhere) Mercedes-Benz C63 Aston Martin V8 Vantage Bentley Flying Spur Ferrari F40 Acura NSX Ottawa suddenly got a whole lot nicer...

Favourite implies only one: Acura NSX Top Ten: Acura NSX (2002-05) Acura RL A-Spec (2005-08) Aston Martin DBS Bentley Arnage T BMW E90 M3 Ferrari 599 GTO Lamborghini Gallardo LP560-4 Mercedes-Benz ML63 AMG (2009+) Mercedes-Benz S65 AMG (2007-09) Toyota TRD Aurion

PC and 360. When it comes out and releases one with all the download content, I'll get it for PS3. 360 first since I have more friends on there to play online. PC eventually afterwards.

Liscenses vary depending on the company. Some companies will only give you certain models, where as others give you whatever you like. Lamborghini falls into the latter, Porsche and BMW do not. I don't know why, but sometimes they do not feel that some cars should be in certain games, so they won't give you access to those cars. That used to be an issue in the past, whether it's still around, it could be, just less common. Why? I don't know, but it wouldn't be the first time to see this issue.

http://www.thecarconnection.com/marty-blog/1041668_driven-2010-dodge-challenger-srt8 Dodge Challenger SRT-8 MSRP is 43,655.

The actual production name for the 599XX isn't F599XX, it's 599XX...it doesn't have the F moniker on it... Except: It could be F141XX, which is the 599XX. So it's still possible. (Syntax I know, but still). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrari_599_GTB_Fiorano And you tried MSRP Prices where? Did you try Euros as well? The currency and car prices may change when you shift islands..meaning we may need to check prices for both places, North America and Europe. (US and Spain more like)

I wonder if it's like that because no one figured out the 4x4 eXtreme eXperiment or something that he had before. So theoretically right now, If the signature is...well obvious, we have Spyker, Audi and Mercedes-Benz with SUVs...hopefully we see more!

Because an XFR and XKR-S are really fun? I'd take either of those two before the M5/M6 or the Panamera Turbo. BMW and Porsche would be great to the game, but they're completely overrated, especially with everyone complaining about it. Currently they're not in the game, but Jaguar is...and if you can't get excited about something that has been confirmed, because you're so "upset" that something isn't, you're never going to enjoy anything. Everyone wants Porsche and BMW, we know it and so does Atari...seriously, if it's not confirmed yet, there's no need to go nuts. At least we got something decent. Would you prefer Lada being confirmed instead? (Okay, That'd be funny, but you get my point.)

Anything can go offroad. I'm guessing it'll be the ML63 AMG, but I wouldn't count on the G55 NOT being in at the same time. Mercedes offers a few SUVs, the thing is a big SUV would be the GL class. Who knows, but glad to see Mercedes bringing an SUV as well.

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There is none... Sorry i didn't mean to pass it off as a fact. What I was saying is that it'd be cool to see them in the game, but given the LM's rarity, one of those two McLaren's will most likely be a club exclusive. I'm assuming based on what we've seen so far. Rare cars tend to be club exclusives so far, especially those with limited production. The Gumpert and one-77 are already exclusives and I'm following that trend. The Mclaren MP4-12C is a club exclusive though, the other two McLaren's aren't comfirmed, just assuming they'll reappear. Sorry again.

Is it just me or are there no badges on the rear of the Q7? Are all the cars going to lack badges and just keep manufacturer badges on?

One of those two McLaren's will be a club exclusive. Also in the email people got, is that a DB9 in the bottom right corner?