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so here is the FullDucksCompany [ATTACH]28725[/ATTACH] :duck: :duck::duck::duck::duck::duck::duck::duck::duck::duck::duck::duck::duck: :photo:

so, I found it... TDU2 Car Details : Volkswagen Beetle 1192cc, 34ch, 115km/h in TDU and for real => Fiche technique moteur Volkswagen Coccinelle 1.2 ess 34ch en Algérie it's seems exactly caracteristics of a 1960's VW bettle :duck:

yes but your bots/cars are really better than originals, i really like to make races with them to see their attitude and their cars with a good balance, we can see their comportments are really différent and sometimes there are so exiting races, some of them are really scared in turns and others are really agressives, and in the "turn of island" it really can help to do a better time so remeber when you released in november, only FR had the bug "pasdansleDVD" and you fixed it with langage by the version of the DVD if I'm remeber, I though maybe it was a logic between the game installed and the DVD

VW coccinelle is 1938-2003 car, so there was many versions, "1 192 cm3 et 30 ch en 1954, puis 34 ch en 1960, 1 285 cm3 et 40 ch en 1965, 1 493 cm3 et 44 ch en 1966, 1 584 cm3 et 50 ch en 1972" Volkswagen Coccinelle — Wikipédia So i doubt one of them can reach 160km/h

Nice topic to try to understand, So in the screen the words you don't know what is tell, thats frenches words for the attitude of the driver "Normal/agressif/peureux/temeraire" wants to say "normal/agressive/scared/reckless" And when you see the bug "PasDansLeDVD" it wants to say in french "Not-In-The-DVD" Maybe the "attitude" of drivers are pré-recorded in dvd, and change their behavior cause crashes ...if it can help a little :duck:

so, here is a duck gang ! :duck: :duck::duck::duck::duck:

Yes DLC or not there was more than 25 years, but its not maybe a reason or a selection criter, 308 is an older car since 1975 and GTO is a new model 1984 for Ferrari For example they considerate like youngtimer a fiat uno turbo ie 85, but not a fiat panda 1980, interest seems important too but it not give us a solution out of the "25th coincidence" whose maybe not one :para:

Hum I'm not sure about the Eden choice but if the 308 GTS QV (1981) is the last and been G, and the 288 GTO (1984) is a C, they had surely a break between theses two dates :nods: So in the original game there is a 308 GTS QV 240ch (1981) or a 308 GTS 255ch (1975) ?

The thing you don't understand, that is parts of history in automobile, first they was with carbon and water, after that there was some gazoil, after there was essence, after there was ether, and many many more technologies in times, each car in each technical history, so fiat uno never be a "classic car", believe me bro :lol: So before 1975-1980 (near) there was a time for automobile, and after the Bosch revolution, there was another time to do a motor, a modern motor is not a classic motor, and there will be forever different in the futur, we don't care of passed times, we try to understand what is a real classic car (from the wheels to the carburation) and why it can considerated like a classic or not

Finally, if we look at the list of youngtimerd by the serious website "l'automobile sportive" in here => Le guide des Youngtimer : les voitures de sport des annes 80 et 90 We can see that they put the Ferrari 512 BBi version 1981-1984, it can seems strange but not, because there is not the same "classic architecture", Ferrari 365 Gt4 BB from 1971 had a 8boxer 4,4L with 4 double carburators (rival Muira) Ferrari 512BB from 1975 had 8boxer 5,0L with 4 double carburators (rival Muira) Ferrari 512 BBi from 1981 had 8boxer 5,0L with injection KKK (rival Countach) And its exactly the same car, but only the 512 BBi 1981 is considerated as "youngtimer" Same.with the Ferrari mondial 8 from.1981, its in the list because its injection fuel modern, there are not "classic architecture" so they are not G category (classic) Maybe there will NEVER youngtimer in serious internationnal races like "tour auto" or "le mans classic" because the mecanical of youngtimer will never "classic architecture", they are only "modern architecture/youngtimer" from 80's ;)

Hum you're wrong, all internationnals classicd races refuses cars later by 1979, Tour auto => Tour Auto 2017 : parcours + engagés (limited to 1973) Le mans classics => Le Mans Classic 2018 8 / 07 / 2018 (limited to 1979) Etc etc etc, after 1980 they call it "youngtimer" everybody know that Only price of assurance are low when you got a +25 years car, but that not say the car become a classic And for the fiat uno descrpted as "classic" :rolleyes: In france too, the black plates can be keeped, but only if it a new immatriculation, very very very many have old plates in 80 and 90's cars in france but the new plate system became later by 2000 --- Post Updated --- "we're in 2017. 2017 - 25 = 1992. That means, today, 1992 vehicles can be considered classics. You agree with it or not." Millis works for an insurrance company ! :lol: But she knows nothing in classic cars :nuts: --- Post Updated --- Here is the "youngtimer guide" for novices about 80's & 90's cars, Le guide des Youngtimer : les voitures de sport des annes 80 et 90 in fact, you're maybe alone in the world to consider classics car in 1989, but why this idea, with no reason ? (plus, F40 is considerated as youngtimer in their professionnal list)

there are no confusion 80's are called "youngtimer" and cars before 1980 are called "classics", it caused by their "classic architecture" and TDU was right on this side :nods: (and F40 is 1986 car from the 288 GTO evoluzion)

so, thanks to wikipedia for details of cars, we can see about the 308 Ferrari 1st version => 308 GTS from 1975-1977, double carburators, polyester body, 255ch => must be in G class 2nde version > 308 GTSi from 1977 to 1982, fuel injection, steal body, 214ch => must be in F class 3rd version => 308 GTS QV from 1982, fuel injection, 4 valves/cylinder, 240ch => must be in E class Ferrari 308 — Wikipédia so 288, F40, testarossa, 308 QV are not G class, cause they're not "classic architecture", but 308 carbus and 512 BB can be G and they are good balance with others in the game it seems like that in the wikipedia reality, and probably in the reality tout court ;)

"This is TDU. And a 1989 Nissan Skyline GT-R R32 would be class G. You agree with it or not. Now, if it's a V-Spec, which is 90's, it won't." not, if I did, I put it in normal classes, like E or D maybe, the R30 could maybe a G class, but R32 with full technologies and 4x4 is not a "classic architecture" "How can you put F40 in a G Class @Stories the car has too much power for that class" never told about it ! F40 is after 1979 so it need to be a B (and original TDU) only Milli want to put the G class in 1989 and say that the F40 is a 90's car, so TDU classical are before 1979 and the F40 is a 80's car and for the pictures, the glasses are the race version (same of the 288 evoluzion), and they are not in the TDU and in the civilian/original version like that => http://forza-rossa.over-blog.com/article-1989-1996-ferrari-f40-lm-gt-gte-81370737.html so finally, the F40 was +70% parts of the 288 GTO evoluzion, and the body-design of the car were built by pinifarina in less than 100 days in 1986 after that Enzo Ferrari saws the 288 evoluzion and said "we need to build that car now" :nods:

happy birthday TDUC :duck: https://media.giphy.com/media/l46CwgcMQr6Si3uGk/giphy.gif (and thanks especially for works in TDU1&2)

yeah but I think it's not really with the time who's passing out or insurrances practices for dating collection cars, it's seems based on her technologies, and 80's or 90's were not the sames technologies with "puces" (or electronical systems) those made their driving, or their sound or their own character, they call that "classic architecture" and an journalist made this comment about the F40 about the génération of cars... "la F40 représente l'achèvement suprême d'une conception classique. En dehors de l'allumage et de l'injection du moteur gérés électroniquement, pas la moindre trace de puce dans cette Ferrari." http://www.automobile-sportive.com/guide/ferrari/f40.php remember in 1989 when the nissan 300zx or the R32 skyline, or BMW 850, mercedes 500SL, porsche 964 theses cars were fully technological systems inside, they were not like some powered cars 2-3 years before maybe real classical architecture is considerated with the firsts injection systems, like 1983-1985, but some classics races in france like "tour auto" or "le mans classics" are considerating it must be before 1979

they probably put it in B class because there was not good balance with others, 1984 Ferrari 288 GTO is 1984 and it is in C class and not G, maybe for same reasons, but F40 is a 80's car probably the best because it from a 650ch race car, not a 90's car, the F50 is based on the next F355 and they are 90's car, so 1946+50 = 1996 = F50 in 1995 in facts, if there was a BB512i Ferrari, they probably put it in G class to be the bests with Lambo Muira, but all the 80's are B, C or D, lambo countach too because its later generation with the 70's Muira and 512BB Ferrari You count the G class in 1989, but TDU count his G class in 1979 I think, Same in Le mans classic showroom, they finished historic classes in 1979 :duck:

"Il signor engenere e questa vettura che dobbiamo costruire" Enzo Ferrari in 1986 when he saws the 288 evoluzion prototype under a cape (VIP) Ferrari F40, ce quessence dans mes veines there was 1000 F40 asked from Enzo Ferrari between 1987 and 1989, and near 314 more were built later after his death

Enzo Ferrari 18 fev 1898-14 aug 1988 Enzo Ferrari — Wikipédia :lol: F40 was his last car :nods: (or Ferrari mondial T 3.4L 32v from 1988 too) Ferrari Mondial — Wikipédia :cool:

for sure, but I love twice 288 GTO and F40 1986's cars :cool: bests in TDU for sure :nods:

:lol: its not "En 1986, le "Commendatore", comme on le surnomme, avait mal digéré l'arrêt brutal du groupe B des rallyes qui avait brisé les espoirs fondés avec le développement de la Ferrari 288 GTOEvoluzione. Mais ce n'était qu'un mauvais coup du destin qui a sans doute aussi exacerbé un peu plus la passion et l'envie de créer la F40, sa F40. Héritière directe de la 288, la Ferrari F40 utilise ainsi des techniques et technologies d'avant-garde" F40 is 1986 car, with doors, wheels, motor and plexiglas motor hood of the 288 GTO evoluzion look its nice => 288 gto evoluzion - חיפוש ב-Google: and F40 was build for 40th birthday of Ferrari, and its 1946-1947, so the F40 is really a 1986-1987 car :duck: Ferrari (entreprise) — Wikipédia

Ferrari F40 — Wikipédia 1987-1992 Ferrari's F40 years production ! so the F40 was build with the evolution of the 288 GTO, who's an evolution of 308, the model just before the F40 was the 288 evolution = look that, it's really near than a F40, but it's a 288 GTO, with the same V8 double turbo 288 gto = FERRARI 288-GTO (1984-1986) - COLLECTOR = V8, 32 valves , 2855 cm3, 2 turbos F40 = FERRARI F40 (1987-1989) - COLLECTOR = V8, 32 valves, 2936 cm3, 2 turbos "Sa carrière de voiture de course ainsi compromise, la 288 GTO Evoluzione permettra toutefois de poser les bases d'un projet plus extrême encore d'une version routière qui aller marquer l'histoire du constructeur de Maranello : la F40. Evolution naturelle de la 288 GTO" http://www.automobile-sportive.com/guide/ferrari/288gto.php F40 is the civilian model of the 288 GTO evoluzion :duck: so finally F40 is a 80's supercar evolution from the 288 GTO evoluzion :nods:

hum, "project paradise" c'est un français qui a fait ca ? je veux dire c'est toi speeder ? :confused:

there is many many ways to play TDU without DVD, after tried all the noDVD (with jumping cars bug sometimes = the car jump on the road herself !!), I choose to launch TDU with the logitechG25 executable after doing a profile for TDU, and it run normally it not need to launch with "project paradise exe" :nods:

Up too, there is a news from the "Science" magazine, who's telling about the sound in space can't be longest than 1 or 2 year-light distance, so if it's right, then we can't hear some sound of another civilisation in Universe, and no other civilisation can hear us ! :rolleyes: (so all the works about 30-40 years SETI or anothers before was unecessary)