Computer Building Help

[Fear Deer]

Hey there

im building a pc for myself, but i have not got all of the hardware, yet.

Anyways my dad bought hardware to build a pc for his company, and im building it.

So i connected and mounted everything and i triple checked, everything was well mounted and connected.

I turned it on..no USB keyboard/Mouse Signal, and no VGA signal.

Unplugged the GFX and tried the onboard.. nothing

not to mention that i noticed a lot of bad smell and smoke coming from the PSU ( i think it was teh PSU ;) semt like it)

So i tried my PSU which is the same one. it gives a weird smell on that computer, yet after that, trying on my motherboard, it doesnt give any smell. we checked the CPU and it was NOT burnt, was just normal. Has a Cooler Master cooler and dissipator on top of it. Its not the GFX cause we tried without it.

Doubt its the PSU tho on that pc it produces a weird smell.

Could be RAM or motherboard :/

Every piece of hardware was bought yesterday.

I did not touch the RAM contacts btw, cose of static electricity.

What could it be :S

Tomorrow going to the shop with the pc, built, so they can analise it and test the hardware on their test pc.

[Ryzza5]

If you're taking it to the shop, let them test it. If you can't tell where the smell is coming from, it's going to be a lot harder for us to do it without smellivision. That said, if you are sure it's not the PSU or CPU, I guess it's either the motherboard or mayve even a HDD.

 

Have you made sure the motherboard underside is not shorting on the case?

[Ozzmcom]

you said you've tried the same psu, why not try a new one with higher W?

[Fear Deer]

@ozzcom if the PSU was not powerfull enough it would not smoke/produce smell.

Me n my dad are 99% Sure the smoke came from teh PSU ,so did the smell.

With my PSU there was no smoke, but there was smell.

And it smelled liked the PSU :|

We checked the CPU and its not burnt.

@Ryzza

Motherboard is not shorting on the case, but il double check that today.

i trid with HDD disconnected both from power and data cable.

only things that i suspect most are RAM or Motherboard.

Before me n my dad take it to the shop, we'll see if the mobo is shorting.

[Ozzmcom]

well I had a similar problem , it smelled like some kind of wire-plasticy burnt and it was the psu

[Ryzza5]

The only way RAM could theoretically burn is if you overclocked it way too much (high voltages/heat), or something was faulty in the circuitory.

[Fear Deer]

Thanks to everyone who replied ;)

The Fault was detected and resolved.

At the store he could not seem to find faulty hardware, so i reminded myself..

Wait maybe there is a short circuit with the board, on the case, as i forgot those things to make the board higher so its contact-less with the case, and i said that and he then said i was right. So i went to my dad's company, re assembled the PC but out of the case and it worked, woop GG Asus, you made a motherboard which survived short circuits on a lot of spots on the motherboard and which made a LOT of smoke. Works very well, its not burnt on any spot, the motherboard.

[Ryzza5]

So I was right :p

 

 

*pats self on the back*

[Fear Deer]

yea :P :pathead:

[Camel]

:fp:.

 

Just hope no permanent damage was done so it doesn't come back and bite you in the next few months.

[Fear Deer]

Hope so too.

Thanks :)

the Computer is on, did a CPU torture test, the quad core AMD Athlon II X4 645 3.10ghz did not go over 51ºC with the cooler Master vortex Plus, which got me in an overclocking mood^^ but i didnt overclock it

[Ryzza5]

Run the PC in stock for a good 2-4 weeks to make sure everything is stable. Otherwise you won't know if stability issues are due to the hardware itself, or the overclocking you've performed.

[Fear Deer]

If you read carefully you'l notice that i did NOT overclock it xD

the cpu is quad core 3.10ghz.

and with the cooler i chose for it, Cooler Master Vortex Plus, under a torture test, all cores 100% load it did NOT go over 51ºC.

Which got me in an overclocking mode, but i did NOT :p

[Ryzza5]

I know you haven't done it already - but 2-4 weeks aren't over yet ;)

[Fear Deer]

Im not gona do it on that pc :P

Its for my dad's company so il leave it stock.

but the one im building has same motherboard, same CPU, same RAM, same PSU, same case, same DVD burner, same cooler, only thing that differs is the graphics card.

dad's company has a Asus GeForce GT440 while im prefering for me ( correct me and explain why ) for gaming purposes the Gigabyte HD5570 OC 1GB DDR3 HDMI, and yea the asus geforce gt440 is GDDR5.

Should i go for the GT440?

Anyways on mine, i WILL overclock, but il let 1 month pass to see if its stable.

Anyways i've only got the case, mobo and dvd burner yet so....yea xD

[Ryzza5]

I like how you're practicing on someone else's copmuter before you build your own one :lol:

[Fear Deer]

lol +rep^^

Anyways that did not answer my question.

which of those 2 graphic cards should i choose...hmm

im quite pointing towards the ATI...

[Camel]

If you do decide to overclock it just be careful of the temps because stock at 51 under load seems high to me. The higher the temps, the more life you're possibly taking out of it.

 

Just curious, what did you use to put the CPU under 100% load and how long for?

[Fear Deer]

I used Prime95 to get it under load and it was under load for around 10 mins

[Camel]

Prime95 is good but 10 minutes isn't long enough for a proper test. Several hours should be the minimum for a proper test, not that you need to do it anyway because there are few situations when CPU load is at 100% for prolonged periods of time.

[Fear Deer]

thanks :p

anyways Asus Geforce GT440 GDDR5 (google for more info bout it)

or Gigabyte HD5570 OC 1GB DDR3 HDMI ?? thats for me btw, gaming purpose

[Camel]

Depends which GT440. How much memory?

 

E: The GT240 1GB is about 10% faster than the HD5570 1GB GDDR5 in most games so will be even faster than the DDR3 version.

 

Go for the GT440, even if it's 512MB because you won't be able to run smoothly with high resolutions like 1920x1080 or high AA with either.

[Fear Deer]

its the 1GB GT440 GDDR5 HDMI

dats the one

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Rgb7PVOludQ/TWfHg2xnS2I/AAAAAAAANms/zdEuQqmGcxo/s1600/ASUS+GT+440+graphics+card.jpg

[Ryzza5]

Isn't the 440 a low-end version for HTPCs and SFF PCs? Or am I thinking of the GT430? Still, I wouldn't expect the 440 to be that much better.

[Camel]

Yea, it's an entry level card but it's more powerful than the 5570 and has the advantage of the quicker GDDR5 memory.