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In fact, I think any BTRQ file would work in any other car's BNK. I know it changes some characteristics for the engine performance, but I'm still not quite sure how the game uses the BTRQ files exactly.

I'm still alive guys :) Thanks to Djey's PM, I found out my editor didn't work with his newer TDUF versions anymore, so my editor no longer depends on TDUF and instead only uses a standalone decrypter/encrypter for reading and saving .btrq files. It's now not such a hassle to set my editor up with TDUF anymore! The new version can be found here.

Oh yeah, that is true, now I think about it. I thought it was inconvenient if you cannot cross points, but it might actually be more confusing if you could cross them! I honestly don't know (if I did know, I would have fixed them haha :lol:). No large bugs at least, I think, maybe a small bug when someone tries to do something I haven't tested yet.

Finally I had some spare time this weekend :happyroll:, so I added the option to exactly specify the coordinates of a data point! The new version can be found here. The best way to make a curve is to just create and drag points in a rough curve and then use the edit boxes to fine-tune the points. It might sound simple to add this option, but due to some limitations in the libraries I use to do the plotting, I had to rewrite some stuff to allow for the selection of a point. Therefore, some bugs may have passed into the final build. So if you guys find any bugs, please let me know! Crossing of points is still not allowed, since changing the order of points is quite hard for me to handle correctly. Any other suggestions to improve the editor are always welcome!

Yes, that would be helpful! You can PM me.

Unfortunately yes, the power curve does not have an effect on the game. In fact, that is why I linked the power and torque graph together, so that when you adjust the power graph, the results indirectly (via the formula) go into the .btrq files. And yes, I agree, maybe I should make that more clear. But I don't think removing the option to edit the power curve is a good idea, since sometimes reallife data from a car is only in the form of a power curve. And then, with the formula, the power curve is approximated by means of a torque curve. Do you guys have an idea how I should handle this in the interface?

You are right, the formula does not hold exactly, but still very close. The thing is, the .btrq files really only hold torque values, so TDU will definitely only use torque to simulate a car's behavior. So perfecting the torque graph is the only thing you can do. The power mode in the editor is just another view of the data. I would like TDU to have had seperate files for torque and power data, but unfortunately, only torque is used by the game. Those screenshots of my editor indeed don't look right, I'll see what I can do. I hope I'll have time to do the coordinate mode and fixing your problem this weekend.

That will always happen, Rebelinho. Power = 2*pi*torque*RPM/60, so changing one will automatically change the other. So yes, they are linked together! If this does not always happen in my program, please let me know, because it definitely should! I hope my program turns out to be useful for you.

Actually, that's a great idea. I can make it so that you can select a point and then type in the coordinates. Is that what you mean?

No problem guys, thanks for the responses! @Tob-Racer, it didn't take a lot of work to build the first version, but refining it is always the most work! It was fun though, wouldn't have done it otherwise either :)

I know it's only been a week since release, but I'm really curious: Has anybody gotten some results using the editor yet?

Great research! Now comes the hardest part though I think; easy editing of the cameras... But now that we have them in JSON format, editing is made alot easier. Any idea about what the 'unknown' hex parts contain?

Nice update Djey! Awesome that it now outputs "real" JSON formatted files! Also great that it didn't break the integration of TDUF in my BTRQ editor :p:clap:

Haha, everybody has their own thing they like and together that's what makes a community :). You might still need TDUPE for the engine performance, because as I said in my post, the max torque does not seem to be affected much by the .btrq curves. Very interested in what people like you can find out about the .btrq effects!

Thanks! Well I know at least that my program works for .btrq files already present in cars, so there's that :lol:. Even if it turns out that .btrq files don't have a huge effect after all (I know they do, but not to what extent) and editing them is not very useful, I still massively enjoyed coding this thing! :)

>>> Downloads below <<< Hi everyone, I have decided to release an editor for adjusting the torque/power - RPM curves which are defined by .btrq files. I have read some forum posts about people using TDUPE to adjust the performance of cars, but noticing that they don't have full control over the engine performance of cars. Therefore, the main goal is to let everyone tinker with those .btrq files, to hopefully allow car modders to tweak engines to their likings! My time is only limited though, so I hope that with the help of you guys, we can find out a lot more about the effect .btrq files have on car performance! Origin of idea Since Djey released his TDUF tool package, I have been tinkering with the BTRQ files present in the BNK files of cars. Inside the BTRQ files, the torque of the engine is given for a number of engine rotation speeds. These correspond to typical torque - RPM curves, as shown in my editor: [ATTACH]27253[/ATTACH] My editor So, naturally, I started to adjust the curves to see what would happen in-game. These files do affect the performance of cars! But unfortunately, this effect is hard to test, because originally I could only edit the .btrq files directly from a Hex editor (not user friendly!). Therefore, I have decided to program an editor that allows anyone to intuitively tweak the .btrq files. Usage and controls Most importantly, you need to have Djey's TDUF in order for this program to work! TDUF is used to decrypt and encrypt the BTRQ files from within the editor, so you don't have to manually decrypt/encrypt them. Steps to incorporate TDUF in the editor: Download Djey's TDUF 0.3.0 or higher here. IMPORTANT: You need java 8 in order for TDUF to work. See the TDUF page for instructions on how to install java 8. Open the BTRQ Editor.exe (download below). It will ask you to point to the TDUF directory (folder). Just navigate to the location where you downloaded TDUF, and select the folder tduf-0.3.0. (Or higher version if TDUF is updated in the future). Click Ok. You are done! TDUF is now correctly loaded and next time you start the BTRQ editor, TDUF will be loaded automatically! This program used to need Djey's TDUF to work, but since the inner workings of TDUF have changed over time, it did not work with my program anymore. I therefore incorporated the original encrypter/decrypter into the BTRQ Editor, so you can just load and save encrypted BTRQ files without having to worry about anything! The decrypter/encrypter I use was made by Luigi Auriemma and its source code is included in the download. Extract a .btrq file from the BNK of the car you want to edit. Use TDUMT for this. (See TDUMT page for instructions or ask here how it works. :)) Always make sure you backup files first! Then, load the .btrq file in the editor. A curve will pop up, which you can now adjust to your likings! If you are done, just hit save and save the .btrq file. Next, fire up TDUMT once again and replace the original .btrq file with the one you just adjusted. Controls: Double click somewhere to add a new point. Right click a point to delete it. Click and drag points to adjust their location. You can also specify the exact data by editing the boxes on the right hand side when a point is selected (yellow). To change view from torque (Nm) to power (HP), just select the one you want under "viewmode". Just to make clear, the power curve is NOT independent of the torque curve. Only torque will be included in the .btrq files, since that is the only thing TDU handles. The power curve is just determined by the standard formula power=torque*rpm*2*pi/60. However, changing the power curve will automatically change the torque curve, so that the approximate power curve will get in the game! My own findings I have very limited time to play around with editing the .btrq files, so I haven't found out a lot yet. That's why I made this editor in the first place, so that everyone can try stuff out! Anyways, I did find out that the shape of the curve totally adjusts the engine performance as you would expect, BUT, the height (amplitude) of the curve does not seem to matter a lot. For instance, try adjusting the curve to a flat 10Nm curve for all RPM. The car will still run, which is physically impossible. Therefore, I suspect that the .btrq files are only used by TDU to determine the shape of the curve, and not the maximum torque/power! The height may be something you can adjust with TDU Performance Editor, but I'm not experienced in that. Another thing still unknown to me is whether the number of points in the curve matters. The number of points vary a lot between cars, but it might be the case that adding/deleting new points will have weird effects. So, please try adjusting curves, play around with them and test the results in game! I hope you guys can find out a lot more than I can on my own! Downloads BTRQ editor v0.5. Just unzip the file somewhere and run the .exe file. See Usage and controls for how to use the editor. Another thing that might interest you guys, is that I rendered the curves for ALL default TDU cars. So if you want to see the engine curve of a specific car, you can download all the plots here. Special thanks Special thanks to Djey, not only for providing us with TDUF, but also for his kind support and testing of some earlier versions of this editor. Thanks Djey! Some technical details For those of you who are interested, this program was written in Python, using PyQt and MatPlotLib. Mostly due to MatPlotLib, the editor freaking eats up ram like there’s no tomorrow (over 100MB is just insane for such a small program). :) But since my time is very limited (full time student at the moment), I don’t really want to rewrite this program in C++/C# to make it a lot faster and smaller. I’m only somewhat experienced in Python anyways. The source code is included in the download though, so feel free to tweak things/rewrite in a faster language! Older versions BTRQ editor v0.3 BTRQ editor v0.4 Changelog BTRQ editor v0.4: Included the option to exactly edit data points! Dragging is still possible though :). It is still not possible to edit a point so that it crosses the x-coordinate of a neighboring point, since that would be quite hard to handle correctly in plotting and saving data. BTRQ editor v0.5: Changed the decrypter/encrypter to Luigi Auriemma's standalone version instead of Djey's TDUF. This makes the BTRQ Editor easier to use and it should now work for a long time!

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Yes, you can with a NoCD launcher, but you won't be able to do single player races. At least, that was my experience but I think that's always the case.

@Diablo Lol, what? :p @Tob-Racer I hope so!

Just realized I hadn't introduced myself yet, even though I have been reading and posting for a little while now. This seems like an awesome community with great people! Anyways, I'm mcv from the Netherlands. See ya around! :)

Works fine with my 8.1 too. Are you sure the controls in TDU settings are configured right? And does scrolling work outside of TDU?

Oh, that would be awesome. Thanks for all the hard work you're doing to improve this game!

Hahaha, I already thought so :clap:

With this, would it eventually be possible to have smoother roads? Or is that a limitation in the way they were implemented? The bumpy roads are the only thing that has always kept me from giving TDU a 10/10.