Salon de TDUCK: New Car Releases

[The Compensator]

Second facelift of the F30 3 Series is BS. I hope they rather meant the F32/33 4 Series and F8x M3/M4. That is happening in 2017.

 

Also, there is gonna be a new M4 variant - CS or Clubsport. Something in between the M4 CP and GTS.

 

The (M)2 Series LCI is in July 2017, not "early 2017". Also, M2 CS/Competition is a thing. S55 engine out of the M4.

 

5 GT and X3 are out of production in Summer 2017. M versions of the next-gen X3 M and X4 are in the pipeline.

 

X2 and 8 Series are coming.

 

Some new version of the i3 is in the works. i8 LCI, too.

 

Never read anything about the M550e. Sounds like someone's wet dream.

[CarMadMike]

I know it won't be a popular opinion but I'd have liked to have seen sportier X1s, I think the F48 is a decent looking car. They'd let you get an xDrive35i when it was undesirable and fugly, but as soon as they make it worth having they remove any decent engine options. I don't necessarily mean an X1M, though I would like to see what that would look like haha

[The Compensator]

I know it won't be a popular opinion but I'd have liked to have seen sportier X1s, I think the F48 is a decent looking car. They'd let you get an xDrive35i when it was undesirable and fugly, but as soon as they make it worth having they remove any decent engine options. I don't necessarily mean an X1M, though I would like to see what that would look like haha

 

Maybe some M Performance version will come as part of the LCI update. I don't know. The X1 25i has already 230 PS, I think that is enough for what it is, though. A six pot doesn't fit in the car either because it's a FWD UKL platform.

 

Hell, I don't think many people are buying even the 25i. X3/X5 buyers are more likely to pay premium for M versions imho.

 

Oh and by the way, the 2er AT/GT is the best selling BMW of 2016 in Germany...

[cis4care]

Second facelift of the F30 3 Series is BS. I hope they rather meant the F32/33 4 Series and F8x M3/M4. That is happening in 2017.

 

Also, there is gonna be a new M4 variant - CS or Clubsport. Something in between the M4 CP and GTS.

 

The (M)2 Series LCI is in July 2017, not "early 2017". Also, M2 CS/Competition is a thing. S55 engine out of the M4.

 

5 GT and X3 are out of production in Summer 2017. M versions of the next-gen X3 M and X4 are in the pipeline.

 

X2 and 8 Series are coming.

 

Some new version of the i3 is in the works. i8 LCI, too.

 

Never read anything about the M550e. Sounds like someone's wet dream.

 

Credible sources???

[The Compensator]

Credible sources???

 

Yes Upcoming BMW model pipeline - from G30 and G01/G02 to G20 and beyond

 

[CLR-GTR]

And that's the problem of the internet, some see it as bluntness while others don't see it wrong. Difference of characters, can't be solved on the web without adding bumping up the smiley limit of forums.

 

And on that note, here's a new note: Lexus RC F GT3 :D

 

 

[CarMadMike]

There's something about the roof line of the car that stops me from loving it :hmmm: But it's still very nice, the aggressive front end works well when GT3'd.

[CLR-GTR]

That's the same I thought when I saw the pics. Maybe how the roof gets ticker from the windows as it goes further back, but that already starts in the roof itself. Usually it's only the C-pillars. I also think a flatter roof like the A5 might have worked a bit better:

 

 

I wondered if this would compete with BMW's and the SLS/AMG-GT3's in races like the ADAC 24h, but according to Lexus we're not going to see it here:

 

In the U.S., the vehicle will compete in the GTD category of the IMSA WeatherTech SportsCar Championship series under 3GT Racing, and in Japan, it will compete in the GT300 class of the SUPER GT series under LMcorsa.

 

 

 

 

EDIT: not so much actual confirmed news yet, but it seems Mini (and therefor the Dutch VDL factory that builds them) are trying to get awarded the build of new police vehicles for the Dutch police. They are looking to replacing a large part of the fleet including a bunch of VW Tourans. If awarded, around 2300 units will be built and they should look a bit like this:

 

 

 

 

EDIT 2: well this was a bit unexpected: the G-Class seems to be getting the massive digital cockpit from the E.

 

[CarMadMike]

Good that they're working on the interior of the G though, they couldn't let it age forever.

 

Faraday Future have announced the price of the FF91........

 

 

$290,000 :omg: For me that's the final nail in the coffin, buhbye.

[The Compensator]

EDIT 2: well this was a bit unexpected: the G-Class seems to be getting the massive digital cockpit from the E.

 

[Loek]

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Mustang facelift....

[The Compensator]

Hope that's just an early April fool's joke. Pre-facelift looks way better

[TIMELESS]

Man that's ugly. It's like a Mustang after an accident :hmmm:

[CarMadMike]

I think they've tried to give it a more mature face, to try and steal sales from the A5 etc, but I'm not sure it's worked.

 

Did Ford offer the 2016 GT with a 1990's useless ricer wing like the one on the 2017 model?

 

 

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Well what's this then? Is it another special crazy expensive G wagon like the 6x6 or the squared ones, or is this going to be a sub £120k pickup?

[CLR-GTR]

I don't like the Mustang. Too much attempt at making it look a bit more sleek with a low nose, imo a Mustang should be a bit in-your-face with a big front-end. Now the grille's way too wide and the lights are too small. Also don't like the inside, it looks a bit cheap.

 

 

 

 

That Merc seems to be a less crazy special than the 6x6. The 6x6 spawned a 2-axle little brother called the 4x4², and perhaps 6x6 production has stopped, leading customers to ask MB for a real Mercedes pickup truck based on the ever-lasting G-Class.

[TIMELESS]

Is that a G convertible? :lol:

[CarMadMike]

I don't like the Mustang. Too much attempt at making it look a bit more sleek with a low nose, imo a Mustang should be a bit in-your-face with a big front-end. Now the grille's way too wide and the lights are too small. Also don't like the inside, it looks a bit cheap.

 

That Merc seems to be a less crazy special than the 6x6. The 6x6 spawned a 2-axle little brother called the 4x4², and perhaps 6x6 production has stopped, leading customers to ask MB for a real Mercedes pickup truck based on the ever-lasting G-Class.

 

I've gotten used to the mustang update now, and I actually rather like it, it looks pretty good from the outside. The inside is a bit in your face, if the materials are good then it's fine but it does look like they wouldn't be good quality for some reason. It looks like it's easy to navigate etc though, all big clunky controls :hmmm:

 

And yeah the Merc seems a bit more tame than the 6x6, but look at that wheelbase :eek: It's a bit long if it's just a normal G class.

[CLR-GTR]

At least one guy needs a clear panoramic view when he directs the driver to a new oil well.

 

It's not a normal G-Class, it's a long wheelbase version. You can tell by the seam of the rear door and the rear wheelarch.

[CarMadMike]

So we're basically getting this with the 2017 AMG bumpers and a V8, and the area between the C and D pillar is a pick up bed?

 

[CLR-GTR]

Ye, roughly that. If I look around a bit more, it almost seems like a hybrid between 3 cars. The G500 4x4², the Binz G XL and the Brabus G500 XXL. The 4x4² is an official MB vehicle. Binz modifies cars (mostly Mercs) to police vehicles, hearses, and armoured vehicles. Brabus needs no explanation I guess: a restorator/tuner.

 

[CarMadMike]

I want that Binz G-Wagon so much, reminds me of all the action films based in europe, the police/special agents always turn up in a fleet of them. Though i'm not sure i'd want the rear doors to be hinged like that on mine :hmmm:

[Loek]

Opel announced that the Mokka X will get a bigger brother, it's called Crossland X.

The Mokka X is based on the Corsa, but more of a crossover-brother of the Meriva. Same happens with the Crossland, based on the Astra, alternative to the Zafira.

 

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[The Compensator]

Project one?

 

 

[CLR-GTR]

That Opel looks really nice. Definitely wouldn't mind being seen in that.

 

I saw those pics of Linkin Park at the center... ye maybe the R50, or at least one of its design studies (one of perhaps a dozen made which we'll never see). However, for some reason it doesn't feel like the actually chosen design, I have the feeling the greenhouse is too far back compared to the first teaser shot of the side view.

 

They better bring back the monoblade wiper on that thing...

 

 

 

EDIT: more news on the Kia Stinger: Kia confirmed the vehicle will debute for the European market in Q4 2017 with pricing announced around that time. Europe will get 3 engines to choose from: a 2,2-liter 197 hp 440 Nm diesel engine, a 2,0-liter 252 hp 353 Nm petrol engine and the top-spec 3,3-liter 370 hp 510 Nm V6

[CarMadMike]

That Opel looks really nice. Definitely wouldn't mind being seen in that.

 

EDIT: more news on the Kia Stinger: Kia confirmed the vehicle will debute for the European market in Q4 2017 with pricing announced around that time. Europe will get 3 engines to choose from: a 2,2-liter 197 hp 440 Nm diesel engine, a 2,0-liter 252 hp 353 Nm petrol engine and the top-spec 3,3-liter 370 hp 510 Nm V6

 

I'm not that big a fan of that Vauxhall Crossland tbh, but it is miles better than the Meriva and previous products put out by the company so I shouldn't complain, It might look better in person.

 

As for the Kia, if the base engine has 197hp then wow that's pretty decent, obvioulsy the one to have is the V6 but it just means every Stinger will be fairly fast. Not bad.