Salon de TDUCK: New Car Releases

[Andreas¹]

Has anyone heard of the Levorg?

 

 

 

The bonnet scoop seems completely unnecessary for a 1.6L boxer, for which they don't mention power figures (I can guess why).

 

Read about it, wanted one, seen a few on the road. I think it got good reviews.

[Ryzza5]

Been a while since TG did a review on a 7 series/S class

 

Here's the latest:

 

[CLR-GTR]

TVR might be on the point of do-return. Apparently this image was recently sent to all who are in TVR's current customer database:

 

 

The unconfirmed story goes that it's being revived by British millionaire Les Edgar. The car itself would be designed by Gordon Murray, get a Cosworth V8 and be faster than the axe-bashed Sagaris. More information on the engine specs, the price and start of production would be disclosed early next year.

 

 

And here's an interesting one: the Daihatsu Copen. Already in its second generation now it comes with 3 body styles thanks to a modular build-up which in theory would allow a Smart-like principle of visiting the dealership to have the bodypanels replaced and get a different car back (ish). There's a classic version that looks like the first generation, a more modern looking one, and a wilder version of the modern one. And now, Daihatsu made these concepts: a Copen '4C' and a Copen Shooting Brake (finally a real one, with just two doors)

 

 

 

 

[TIMELESS]

That TVR is actually very nice looking, retro but not outdated (ala F-Type). Look forward to seeing more of it.

[CLR-GTR]

Pagani just threw in a teaser, meet the Huayra BC:

 

 

 

And in other news, Gumpert (of the radical Apollo) might have been saved. Ideal TeamVenture, the same party who bought DeTomaso in June 2015, are the new owners. They have renamed Gumpert GmbH to Apollo Automobil GmbH and their first vehicle, codenamed Arrow, will be introduced in March on the Geneva Motor Show. They will perhaps provide some first details on January 11th when the new website will be launched >here<.

[Andreas¹]

The new Volvo V90 was leaked today:

 

Sauce: Volvo V90 avslöjad – helt omaskerad! | Teknikens Värld

 

:hmmm:

 

I do like it but I'm not sure, I wish it looked more... different? Radical? I dunno, it's the same good looking front as the S90 but they took the arse from the current V60 and added some horisontalness to the tail lights.

[The Compensator]

What's up with the rear hatch? It's angled like it's a 5-door coupe. It's from Sweden and you won't be able to put an IKEA SKÅLLANÖS furniture box in there. #lifestylewagons #design

 

R.I.P. practical wagons.

 

 

[CarMadMike]

I do like it but I'm not sure, I wish it looked more... different? Radical?.

 

People don't seem to buy Volvos for something radical though, they're a safe high quality vehicle with a few quirks that make them a worthy alternative to the usual choice, something radical wouldn't appeal to their target demographic imo.

 

I like the V90 though.

 

I hate this new design feature in front bumpers that seems to be growing in popularity, that lower lip being quite horizontal and separate to the rest of it, If this doesn't make sense i'll edit something up to clarify. It's something you see on new Bentleys, some Golfs and other cars at the moment and I really don't like it :hmmm:

[Ryzza5]

Hmm I don't mind the Volvo either from those pics. It has that understanded 'Golf' quality but probably is more premium, which I guess makes it a quirky Audi alternative. (It would have to be for the price).

[CarMadMike]

Yah, that basic white colour with what I'd imagine are the basic wheels doesn't really do it much justice I guess.

 

I've seen a fair amount of new XC90s on the road and they look very premium indeed, I love them.

[TIMELESS]

Yeah I understand what you mean Mike, like an extra spoiler attached to the bottom of the bumper. Ignoring that I do like it, the current Volvo line-up is very purdy.

[The Compensator]

Pls explain more, I don't know what you mean by the spoiler.

[TDUFREAK500]

Like a chin spoiler

[Andreas¹]

People don't seem to buy Volvos for something radical though, they're a safe high quality vehicle with a few quirks that make them a worthy alternative to the usual choice, something radical wouldn't appeal to their target demographic imo.

 

I like the V90 though.

 

I hate this new design feature in front bumpers that seems to be growing in popularity, that lower lip being quite horizontal and separate to the rest of it, If this doesn't make sense i'll edit something up to clarify. It's something you see on new Bentleys, some Golfs and other cars at the moment and I really don't like it :hmmm:

I didn't mean radical when compared to other cars, I meant compared to their old cars, like not ripping the tail lights off the current V60, etc.

Pls explain more, I don't know what you mean by the spoiler.

I think he means this and now he pointed it out I agree:

[CLR-GTR]

Isn't that the front splitter also as often used on race cars? Bit of a sportier way to emphasise the mouth and perhaps better airflow for cooling and/or fuelconsumption.

[The Compensator]

perhaps better airflow for cooling.

 

Yah, especially when the huge intake mouths are fake. :lol:

[Andreas¹]

Isn't that the front splitter also as often used on race cars? Bit of a sportier way to emphasise the mouth and perhaps better airflow for cooling and/or fuelconsumption.

Yeah. It doesn't look bad, just a bit plonked on there. :p Also, these aren't race cars.

Yah, especially when the huge intake mouths are fake. :lol:

What do those even have to do with the splitter we're discussing? :susp:

[CLR-GTR]

Also, these aren't race cars.

 

Better cooling and reduced fuelconsumption due to better airflow around the vehicle is not a ''because race car'' thing. Mercedes spent quite some resources in getting just this right on the B-Class...

[The Compensator]

Yeah. It doesn't look bad, just a bit plonked on there. :p Also, these aren't race cars.

 

Better air flow = better CO2 & MPG = less fees paid by manufacturers

 

What do those even have to do with the splitter we're discussing? :susp:

 

Read the quote in my post.

[CarMadMike]

I don't care about the practical uses for it, from a purely aesthetical point of view I think they look poorly integrated into the rest of the design.

 

The conti GT is a good looking car other than that chin spoiler addition, it's well hidden when choosing darker colours though..

[Andreas¹]

Better air flow = better CO2 & MPG = less fees paid by manufacturers

 

 

 

Read the quote in my post.

 

I know, I still don't think what you said makes sense.

[CarMadMike]

Here:

 

There are more examples out there, but surely that's enough for me to ask people, do you think that looks good? I think it looks really cheap and basic

 

If those small pieces of painted bodywork went all the way down I think it would look so much better, but having it finish and creating that plastic gab/chin spoiler really ruins the car for me.

[Andreas¹]

I don't feel as anti them as you seem to be but it depends hugely on the car. On the Golf for example I really think it looks good but on the Conti it just feels superfluous and thrown in because.

[CarMadMike]

On the golf, the VW Golf, a car synonymous with snooooooooreeee zzzzzzzzzzzzz boring, "my wife made me choose this over that much cheaper Seat Leon Cupra or Alfa Giuletta that are so much more interesting" or "my company only gave me the choice between a silver Golf or black Golf" even though they know it's a much better car than its rivals...... I feel it's a design feature a bit too far, it's unnecessary and doesn't really add much to the design (in my eyes it detracts from it), similar to the little fin on the left and right of the front bumpers of Jaguar F-Types that you don't find on the project 7.

[TIMELESS]

On the golf, the VW Golf, a car synonymous with snooooooooreeee zzzzzzzzzzzzz boring, "my wife made me choose this over that much cheaper Seat Leon Cupra or Alfa Giuletta that are so much more interesting" or "my company only gave me the choice between a silver Golf or black Golf" even though they know it's a much better car than its rivals...... I feel it's a design feature a bit too far, it's unnecessary and doesn't really add much to the design (in my eyes it detracts from it), similar to the little fin on the left and right of the front bumpers of Jaguar F-Types that you don't find on the project 7.

 

I love semi-drunk Mike :D

 

It's not so bad on the Golf, it almost blends in, however on the Bentley it looks absolutely hideous and completely out of place. I wouldn't call the Bentley pretty (though I do love it) but that stupid almost spoiler ruins the flow of the design.