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Paladin Skylark · January 6, 2013

He has some valid points. But I think FH is better than TDU2 as a whole.

Yes, FH has issues, but it's the first game in the series, give them a chance to fix things.

Ryzza5 · January 6, 2013

But then you have to compare FH to TDU1 :lol:

iNotACactus · January 6, 2013

FH's graphics and physics still put it a leg above TDU1, imo.

superhyper · January 6, 2013

I kept going back to TDU1 time after time, whereas FH has been gathering dust for quite a while now.

Ryzza5 · January 6, 2013

Yes but we've all but stopped playing FH now... after how many years?

Huggy94 · January 6, 2013

I just don't get how people can go on about physics when TDU2 is not the real thing and is in a virtual world and at the end of the day, its a game. :S

iNotACactus · January 6, 2013

When the physics completely eliminate drifting and don't resemble good arcade or IRL physics, it ruins the game.

Huggy94 · January 7, 2013

When the physics completely eliminate drifting and don't resemble good arcade or IRL physics, it ruins the game.

wut? What are "good" arcade physics?

iNotACactus · January 7, 2013

Burnout Paradise, NFS Hot Pursuit (2010), PGR 4, DiRT, and so on. They resemble actual cars but still have a large amount of forgiveness so it's not difficult.

Huggy94 · January 7, 2013

Burnout Paradise, NFS Hot Pursuit (2010), PGR 4, DiRT, and so on.

Yeah but how is TDU2's bad compared to those titles? (which some people complain about because they are TOO arcadey). Seem the same to me.

Ryzza5 · January 7, 2013

Arcade should just be an easier, more forgiving version of simulation. If you want to have crazy Ridge Racer handling then don't bother buying licenses for real cars. TDU2's handling simply isn't realistic. You give certain inputs expecting a certain outcome (and in any other game would deliver and you could control the car), whereas cars in TDU2 behave unpredictably, and are then uncontrollable at speed, and not enjoyable). They pivot around the center instead of taking into account that the wheels are on the ends of the car).

For example, in TDU1 hardcore mode, grab any high power car. Drop the clutch and give it a bootful of acceleration. The driven wheel spin and inertia starts to make the back step out a bit. You respond to this by reducing power and steering where you want to go and you have a nice burnout. Try that in TDU2 and either nothing happens (you just pull away), or you're facing the wrong direction before you even hit redline with no ability to feather the throttle to control the car.

The whole point of TDU is to do what we generally can't in real life - drive your dream cars on fantastic roads. Sure you can have fun with a keyboard or gamepad, but when you play with a good steering wheel, H shifter, TrackIR, and Buttkicker it will feel so much better and more immersive, you'll be looking for the indicator stalk.

Eudemon · January 7, 2013

I just don't get how people can go on about physics when TDU2 is not the real thing and is in a virtual world and at the end of the day, its a game. :S

Coming from the previous game it's easy to see how people hate the handling in TDU2 and unfortunately it actually makes the game not worth playing for many people, just look around many places and see the general consensus. There are people who don't mind it and to me the handling resembles very old style gaming where you drove with the D-pad of your controller due to it's twitchiness.

There is nothing to say a driving game can't cater to everyone, it just seems something that many developers don't take the time to work on. Forza Horizon is a decent example as with all aids on and the lower difficulties the cars are very easy to drive however it still instils the need to brake and slow down for turns and such as it is not a full-on F-Zero on wheels like Ridge Racer or Split Second type game. TDU was the same, you went to fast you hit the wall or a tree in most cases. However it was drivable even if it was floored [flawed] in this area and this is why many many people hate TDU2 and don't rate it much in relation to the first one.

In summary.

TDU is often said to be a decent driving game with a dodgy environment.

TDU2 is said to be a dodgy driving game with a decent environment.

TDUZoqqer · January 10, 2013

i dont want to spam but i got horizon just a week from now as ive borrowed it from my friend so is anyone here who wants to play with me? :D

Dan G · January 10, 2013

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In summary.

TDU is often said to be a decent driving game with a dodgy environment.

TDU2 is said to be a dodgy driving game with a decent environment.

Well said. Damn I miss the old days of TDU, (in HC mode) yeah the understeer was a pain, and the moon gravity was annoying, but the latter was a laugh and everything else was near-perfect!

I liked the environment in TDU, just the 2 things I mentioned above let it down.

Eudemon · January 25, 2013

Stop signs eh. They're pointless right?

hassan1995 · January 31, 2013

A few cars you may like in this dlc *yawn*

Mb · January 31, 2013

"Meh"

superhyper · January 31, 2013

I love the BRZ so I want it, I love the RX3 so I want it, I think the FJ cruiser is cool in a very twisted way and thus, I want it.

The only problem is that I want them in FM4 or at least FM5, not in Horizon :wait:

Dan G · February 1, 2013

lol...gtfo jalopnik pack....

Eudemon · March 12, 2013

The pre-order pack is now available on the Marketplace for 400MSP.

Ferrari 458 Italia

Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG

Aston Martin Virage

Nissan 370Z

Volkswagen Golf R

Ryzza5 · March 12, 2013

So those who didn't preorder get the better deal since those who did preorder are paying the same amount for less DLC

TimBud · April 16, 2013

No ones made a post about the FH 1000 Club DLC yet!

What this?

Ryzza5 · April 16, 2013

Well it certainly isn't this :lol:

Eudemon · April 16, 2013

Is it true that you need to pay for a TDU style jump-to-location feature?

Ryzza5 · April 16, 2013

Wouldn't surprise me - you had to pay to unlock all the horizon outposts if you cbb unlocking it yourself. Maybe you get the jump feature for free if you complete all 1000 challenges :lol:

Tonight is GT5 league night so I can't check.